Cameron Hunter: The Sweetest Thing

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Cameron Hunter: The Sweetest Thing

Wasn’t he the sweetest thing you’ve ever met?

He truly was, Jenny. You couldn’t have prepped me enough for how cute and charming and sweet he was.

Talented, funny, open and modest, always so humble and his career from starting as a skateboarder and hanging out with his friends and loving rap and music. He’s a real bonafide rockstar.

He taught himself how to sing.

He’s not afraid even when he was so successful with his first band, to leave that once it wasn’t what he wanted to do anymore. He pivots right away into something else and he wasn’t afraid of was it going to be successful or were these fans going to follow? He trusted and did it, and also about how much he loved his mommy.

I love that part. That was my favorite part.

He gave her props from start to finish always when we would be like, “You’re so whatever,” something like a big compliment. He would always bring it back to mom. I hope you enjoy with Cameron Hunter because Mondi and I did.

We can’t wait for you to read this.

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I’m so excited because I’m such a dorky mom and I’m here with our guest who’s so cool.

I’m nervous and excited too.

We talked about you, Cameron. It’s a big thing. She barely knows you but she noticed it right away, “He’s so sweet.”

I said to her, “Can you imagine if you raised a boy who grew up to be this cool and this sweet?”

I said, “Please let both my guys.”

Shout out to Trulie.

We both have boys and please can they be as sweet as you are. One of the things I told Cameron, I was like, “I cry a lot and mommy cries a lot.” He was talking about business and how important making these decisions and negotiations. He was saying how he’s one of those special people that can compartmentalize and who can be very detached. Business is one thing and it’s different. It’s such a good way to be and I’ve never been able to do it.

It’s hard. What’s your special secret?

Being an Aquarius I think has something to do with it. That’s a lot. My horoscope is a nightmare.

I didn’t know that about you. I’ve known Cameron maybe his whole life. We’re here with Cameron Hunter, his official IG celebrity name is @CammHunter. He’s the lead singer of the band Honors and it’s really good.

Thank you.

I love you. I know you’re super talented and you’ve been at this forever, but then when I listen to it and I love it, you have this amazing voice. There’s a lot to talk about. I’ve known Camm Hunter his whole life because our moms were super tight and super close. They were in drama school together. That was a long time ago because my mom was pregnant then. That’s been for many years.

That’s a long time. We’ve known each other forever. You’re like my unofficial cousin.

That’s what I thought. I was saying to Cameron that I used to feel like I was his aunt, but then I’m like, “No, I don’t like it. I want to be a younger and cool cousin.” We could go through our parent’s history but that’s also a longer story. I’ve known Cameron since he was tiny and he’s always been the funniest and charismatic person ever. You had your first band, Down With Webster. You guys formed with a bunch of friends.

It was a bunch of my teenage friends from the neighborhood who started a band.

The neighborhood was Toronto.

I’m from Toronto, Canada. I grew up there. It all happened there.

Were you besties?

We’re best friends who hung out after school and we were lucky enough that one of the guy’s dad had been a jingle writer and had this crazy studio in his backyard. We had unlimited access to this recording space where we’d go and hang out.

Were you the singer from that?

I actually rapped and produced at that point. I started off as a producer-rapper. I was obsessed with rap music from a very young age. I was super into and started off that way, but no one knew what they were doing. We fell into the roles of what we did.

Are you a group of seven?

There used to be way more of us. People go to university and college and leave. We pared it down to the people that wanted to do it which was seven, which was still a lot.

Were you sixteen?

I was like fifteen, sixteen around then.

They are hanging out after school. Your friend’s dad has this awesome studio. You start fooling around in there. Nobody knows what they’re doing. Does anyone play instruments?

Yes, we’re lucky enough that there were at least two guys who could play the drums well. A bunch of guitarists, bass players, people that had been playing from an early age and they were also cool, which is rare and nice at that age. We have a kid who’s been good at guitar, he’s like, “You’ve been in your room for a long time.” This eye contact might not be your strength.

Cameron told me that one of the guys in Down With Webster was a cool and fun guy that had nothing to do with music.

He was a music enthusiast, to be fair. He was into it.

Did he do the operational stuff behind the scenes?

No. He was there for moral support and vibe and just a great friend.

People loved him.

He’s also super charismatic because he was great on stage and had great presence, so that helped.

When did you guys go from working in your friend’s dad’s garage studio to, “We’re going to play shows?”

It became a thing where we’d made a whole bunch of songs and we had a very active social life in the neighborhood that we were from. We’re like, “Let’s throw shows for all our friends and all the people that are high school and whatnot.” We started doing that downtown and they got bigger and bigger to a point where it’s like, “There are 100 people here that I don’t know.” Around 2008, labels started calling us and being like, “We heard you’re doing these shows, we want to hear more of the music.” It became a thing where it blew up in Canada. It became a very meaningful thing that took me through pretty much my entire twenties.

I didn’t realize that throughout his twenties he was famous in Canada.

It was crazy. We went Platinum five times in Canada.

How did you handle that from just a neighborhood thing?

I think we handled it because we’re insulated by our friend group still. You always have friends around it. It wasn’t this weird thing where it’s like a singer who goes off on his own and then has a bunch of managers in their 40s that are the only people around him. I always had six other guys that have known me since I was eleven. You can’t be too snobby around that.

Weird or change that much because people are on your crap.

They’re the same people that you’ve been around for a long time.

To your credit, because we both have show moms, I would see Cameron at multiple holidays throughout the year. I knew he was in this band and I had no idea how big it was. I’m like, “Cameron is in a band. He plays in shows.” They played huge arenas.

Five times Platinum? That’s major.

We have the number one radio songs and we’re on TV. It was a real thing.

How did Down With Webster disband?

I think we put out four albums and we toured constantly. At one point we were playing 200 shows a year, which is a lot.

Was it all around Canada?

It was all around Canada. We did some Europe, we did the States a few times. We’d come down and support other groups in the States. We opened up for Timbaland and Black Eyed Peas and a bunch of these pop artists of that era.

I think I remember that you opened for the Black Eyed Peas. That’s big time.

It was the best. The crowds are enormous and this was fairly early on and it was like, “This is insane.” We had been doing the same stuff for so long that after a while it’s like, “I don’t want to be locked into making the same type of music over and over again.” We did that and it went well.” I don’t want to feel like I have to make something that’s going to satiate a certain fan base that expects that. All this stuff we were making sounded way different and it’s like, “Do we want to try and change this whole thing into something that it’s not, or is it easier to being like, ‘Let that be what it is because it’s awesome,’ and then start a new thing that’s radically different?”

I think that’s brave.

It was a totally mental choice. Turning 30 and being like, “I’m going to double down and pretend that I’m twenty and start this all over again.”

You’re already successful in making that decision to start all over again.

It’s definitely a risky thing. It’s like giving up something that’s tried and true and we could probably ride out for a very long time, be comfortable and all of us were like, “Let’s jump with what we want to do.”

Not all of you because it wasn’t seven of you.

Some of the other guys, like the guy who was just there for the vibe, found another path and he was like, “This is fun but I want to do something that I do.”

The part of that story that I like is that he also wasn’t like, “I want to continue to be your mascot.” He was like, “I’m getting inspired.”

He’s the best. Shout out to him. I love him a lot. He’s awesome. One of the other guys was way older than us. He was the older brother of someone that we knew from our area. He was our DJ and still a great friend of mine, but hit a point where he’s like, “I’m having a kid. I can’t be out on the road all the time.” He chilled out. The other guy who was a rapper in the old group, we started making music and it wasn’t clicking. He was making rap stuff. We’re making this stuff that doesn’t sound like it. I was living with him at the time and it was very amicable. He totally understands. Now he’s crushing it and working in Nashville writing music.

I equated it to Cameron, I was the older mom version of people who divorce amicably and co-parent.

It’s a testament to all your maturity.

It wasn’t a breakup in those terms. It was like, “We’re going to put this on hold and we’re going to go do our other thing.” Right before we stopped, we recorded an entire album we haven’t put out yet. There’s still a fifth Down With Webster album sitting there.

Are you going to release it?

I don’t know what’s with Universal and I don’t know what’s going to go on, but it’s there.

When you were with Down With Webster, you were signed with Universal. Were they upset when you guys broke up?

I hope they understood that no one’s come after me, but I know that they have the album and it’s a matter of if we ever wanted to, we could go back and sit. You’ll never know. Maybe we’ll do a ten-year, twelve-year reunion.

I like that it’s on the table.

It’s not off the table. We all loved that group. We loved doing it. We love all the guys, it would be so much fun to get back together and do it again. We’ve been pretty busy with this thing for now.

You’ve been part of Honors for three years?

Yes, technically. The first year was we didn’t even know what it was. It was just us writing this music that didn’t sound like the old music.

How many people are from the original group?

It’s four of us from the original group, the guys that I’ve known forever from the beaches in Toronto. We all grew up writing together. It was the core writers of the old group.

This is one of my favorite things. When they decided to do this band and write things, they had one song and they released it into the void. They told no one, they didn’t say on their social media accounts, “I’m from Down With Webster. We’re releasing this new thing. Come over here.” They didn’t direct anyone. Whose choice was that?

Down With Webster had 500,000 followers on Facebook that we could have actively tried to engage and move over. That would be the smart business thing of us to have done probably, but we don’t want it to feel like, “This is only doing well because the last thing did well and it’s not on the merit of we wanted to test it out completely.” We told no one and dropped it into nothing and literally uploaded ourselves on Spotify. Within a month or two, it was sitting at four million plays and we were like, “This is insane.” You always like the music you make but you don’t know what the reception’s going to be. I immediately started getting flown out to all these label meetings and things went nuts.

You had a couple of more songs to play them?

Yes. We didn’t make the decision to jump off Down With Webster until we had probably four songs like, “This all sounds like a certain thing.”

You sound to me so smart in terms of how you handle the business.

Yes and no. I did walk away from trying to migrate a large fan base over to something else, which would have made it easier out of the gate potentially.

I think you guys are doing well.

It’s going as well as it possibly can for a thing that is a couple of years old.

You signed on with a record label that gave them an amazing deal.

They were the best.

In the sense that they only have you for one album.

I won’t get into the nitty-gritty of the boring math stuff, but definitely it was the fairest deal I’ve ever seen. Partially, I think we always dealt with major labels in the past and this was like a more independent boutique thing. It was like, “This is night and day in terms of what it says.”

It’s one album and a lot of record labels will try to lock bands.

They’ll try and lock you in for multiple options, but it’s basically other albums. I’ve seen this happen to so many people and artists that I know where they’ll sign you because they like a couple of songs and they’re doing well. That runs its course, it’s time for what it’s going to follow it up, but everything you give them is not good enough and they’re like, “This isn’t ready.” You get put into this cycle of trying to write music to appease someone somewhere and you never release it. A few years past and your career is over, which is awful.

You have one album with Honors and you’re touring. Is this the first tour?

This is the first time that we’ve toured as Honors.

When I saw you last, you were on a mini-tour?

I think we just came to LA to write and record and we were here anyway, so we’re like, “Let’s try and get a few shows in while we’re here.”

Mondi and I both like a fancy lady boutique. At this fancy lady boutique, I went and I was talking to one of the girls who work there and there’s another girl who worked there. Her boyfriend is in a band. I hadn’t heard of it. I said, “I think this sounds similar to the place where my dear family friend is.” I mentioned your band and the girls were very excited and knew you. That’s a lot of excitement.

I’m back in that place when we first started the old band where every time I hear that I’m like, “That’s insane.” I was in Denver and there were 100 people like, “We came to see you.” I’m like, “What? How?” The internet’s still blowing my mind on a regular basis. Those numbers represent real people that are actually out there.

Was this tour for a few months?

We went out early January and we’re finishing mid-April. This is the longest amount of time I think we ever consecutively been.

Is it an international tour?

Yes. It’s parts of Canada and then a lot of US.

How is it being on tour?

It’s great. We’re in the infancy stage of this new project, so we’re roughing it. We’re doing everything ourselves.

What do you mean by that? I don’t know what that means.

In a bigger production tour, you would have a sound guy who’s mixing your sound and making sure it sounds okay. You’d have guys that are helping set up the gear and tuning guitars and all that stuff. You would also usually be in a tour bus and have a driver. Now we’re doing the driving, we’re doing the Sprinter van thing. We’re setting up everything. It’s lucky that we’re at a point where we know how to do all this stuff because we’ve done it for so long. It’s gratifying to be like, “We can do this ourselves and fill all these roles.”

Another part of the story that I love is that when you are in Down With Webster, you had all that support. You had roadies, fancy tour buses and all the things. I like it that you didn’t get soft or spoiled and you’re down with doing it yourself.

When we first started, we were touring in a Chevy Suburban with people sitting on each other almost, so we know how to do it.

It takes you back to the beginning. Does it help your creativity when you’re doing it all?

Totally, it’s liberating because no one expects anything from you and you can do exactly what you want and you can remold it exactly what you want it to be, which is cool.

I would imagine when it’s a great show, it must be the highest of highs. It’s cool, it’s fun. Do you ever have bad shows?

For sure, there are always bad shows.

Is that depressing?

After you’ve done it enough, it’s like, “We’ll get them next time or there will be another one.”

Is it energy?

You might feel off. Sometimes I’ll get off stage and I’ll be like, “That sucked.” People will be like, “We had a great time. That was awesome.” I’m like, “I felt bad about that. I didn’t like how I sang. I didn’t like how I felt. The vibe was weird.”

It’s good to know this, especially as the frontman. I have never seen you live, but the lead singer always strikes me as the one that a lot of the showman pressure is on.

There’s definitely pressure. I’m lucky because I and Pat both sing, so we take turns, which is nice. It’s not always on me, but I still do a lot of the talking to the crowd and fronting. I have to be on, which if you’re not feeling on obviously can be hard.

Have there been nights when you’re like, “I am not feeling on,” that you can turn it on?

Yes, 100%.

Are there other nights where you can’t?

I can always turn it back on.

Do you meditate? What do you do to get that energy?

It’s like muscle memory. You get used to it. It’s like when you go out in front of a bunch of people or if you’re put on the spot, you have to public speak, you feel adrenaline, you feel fear. It’s how you respond to that fear is this guaranteed thing, a place that you go that happens to be outgoing and turn it on.

I think that is a real gift because so many times I’ve met people and they are artists of various types or actors or musicians. The nerves and the adrenaline of playing a show or going to an audition, I would get so nervous. I would twitch, things would be very nervous. People who can channel the adrenaline into a real charisma is a gift.

I still get nervous. Everyone gets nervous. You’re never going to get rid of that, it’s more like how you deal with it.

You’ve always been charismatic.

Let’s go back a little bit, let’s talk about that.

I told Mondi and I need to know more. Tell us about this skateboarding life when you were a tiny baby.

Did you know you were charismatic?

I’m Canadian, so I feel weird about saying that I have charisma. I feel like I’m bragging because I don’t feel like I do. I just feel like I’m normal.

Cameron, I’ve known you your whole life. You’re one of the most charismatic people I ever met.

I appreciate that.

I’m learning. She knows a lot of people. She knows everybody.

You’ve always been funny, smart and always seemingly fearless even though everybody gets nervous and scared. This to me is no surprise that you’re a lead singer, but how did you get there?

I was a crazy child for sure. I remember being insane. I was wild.

We might have to go back there. You and my brother were both wild, hilarious and scary. We recorded them off in a room and they were playing, jumping off beds.

Not listening and a lot of rambunctiousness and just being really out there.

Both you and my brother had that quality of if it didn’t make sense to them internally of what an adult or any authority was saying, you’re like, “No.” Whereas I would be like, “I could do that.”

We didn’t have it.

That was another bonding thing for my mom and Trulie with many other things, but they both had these wild, charismatic, handsome, sweet boys, “What do we do with them?” There was an aspect of both of you that was like, “I’m not doing that.”

We were reasonable. There is still some level of reason operating behind it. It wasn’t total insanity.

It doesn’t seem to surprise me that you’re the lead singer. How did it evolve from being in your friend’s garage?

I met all these guys because of skateboarding, which is the crazy thing. I used to be huge into skateboarding.

What age was that?

That must have been like age ten, I got into skateboarding. This would have been in the late ‘90s, and I was super into it. I basically met all my best friends through skateboarding.

At skate parks?

Not even, we were getting on the subway at age ten, going downtown, skateboarding downtown, avoiding security guards and getting chased by police, all that stuff.

This is what I mean about my brother. There was no fear.

It was being totally insane both behavior wise and physically like, “I’m going to jump off of 25 stairs as fast as I can in a skateboard into traffic and we’ll see what happens.” At that age, you don’t know and you’re not thinking, at least I wasn’t.

Did you wear a helmet?

No, I was lucky enough that it was the first. I was always bad at sports growing up. I tried playing baseball, hockey, basketball and I were terrible at all of them. Skateboarding was the first thing where I was instantly better at than the people around me.

Were you instantly good at it?

I was instantly better at people that were doing it for the same time as me. I progressed at it quickly and I ended up getting sponsored by a store in Toronto that was my local store and started doing competitions and stuff.

You did the competition?

I did some competition skateboarding and it became a thing for me. I met so many people through it like hanging out in the neighborhood. I’d leave in the morning and come back when it got dark out.

Skateboarding was huge, especially in the ‘90s.

You told me you love skateboarders.

I grew up in San Diego.

Do you have lots of skateboarders there? I’ve never been there.

Everybody was a skateboarder and surfer, or both.

You are the mecca of skateboarding. I’d read magazines and always see these spots. Now coming to LA when I was in my mid-twenties I’d be like, “Oh my God.”

Do you ever skateboard anymore?

I still skateboard. I don’t try and do insane things to break my ankles, wrists or something.

Did your mom ever find out about this downtown excursion?

For sure. I was always very open with my mom for better or worse. I knew I would get in trouble, but I’d be like, “This is what I’m doing. I’m not going to stop, but I’m sorry.”

One of the things that Trulie and my mom and I remember them both sharing this. Both James and Cameron, you both were injured many times. There was a lot of emergency room visits. Not for the reasons that I take my children because I’m a hypochondriac and gets over it, but for legitimate like stitches, gashes, wounds.

I still have at least four permanent scars on my face. One by my eyebrow that looks like a cut, one in the middle of my forehead, one on my chin. These are all from age six and down.

Six and down on your face?

I am holding popsicles on my face. This one on top of my eyes was from a boomerang.

Did you hit yourself?

No. Me and someone thought it was a good idea to be playing catch with the boomerang. I’m terrible at catching balls like baseball because sports I’m no good at. I caught it in the eye. I had my whole hand up there and there was blood. My mom’s like, “I thought your eye was gone.”

You meet all your friends, they’re your best skateboarding friends.

I met them all through skateboarding in Toronto.

You’re like, “It would be cool if we just fooled around in the studio.”

I was also obsessed with rap music and was trying to make beats on little keyboards, tape machines and doing all of this stuff. I met these guys who were also like, “We play music and we actively have a space where we’re making music.” I remember the first time they showed me a CD that they had burned and it was their music and I was like, “What do you mean it’s your music?” They’re like, “We did this.” I was like, “You’ve got to be kidding me. I’m coming down.” We fell in love with that idea of being able to make CDs that you made and passed them out at high school and be like, “That’s us.” It was unheard of at the time. Now it’s so easy. Everyone with a laptop can do it, but back then it was magic.

You were innovators.

It was crazy. It was a magical thing.

Did you guys become the coolest people in your school?

Some of us, some not but it eventually caught on.

You were into rapping, you were producing music in the beginning for the band, but you started rapping and that’s how you became the singer?

Pretty much. I was always a guy who made rap music and we’d go to parties and do freestyle rapping when that was a big thing.

These people who improvise the lyrics?

Usually making it up and I was always good at.

I’ve seen rappers do it and I’m impressed with it because it seems like it’s so much pressure.

It’s tough when you make things rhyme, make sense, be funny and do it immediately. It’s a lot.

Especially at a party.

At that age, for whatever reason in high school, I could instantly do it and be good at it.

I would like to ask you because to be so good at that, to be a lead singer and as a child you had a slight stutter. Did you ever stutter?

I still have a slight stutter every now and then, it comes out.

When you’re focused like that, it doesn’t. You just do it.

It’s one of those The King’s Speech scenarios where if you sing or if you recite something for some reason, it accesses a different part of your brain that makes you not stutter. I also went to speech therapy in all fairness.

Still to be under pressure like that and to have a stutter, and it is The King’s Speech.

To not shy away from that platform.

I instantly realized that it wouldn’t happen when I did that. It’s never a worry. I’m never like, “Am I going to study right now?” For some reason, if it was rapping, it wouldn’t happen.

That’s cool because I feel like when you’re in your flow and doing the thing that you’re supposed to do and you love it, that adrenaline you channel in a way.

If I started stuttering when I started rapping, I probably wouldn’t have done it. This isn’t working.

To have the confidence that you knew it wouldn’t happen, it’s also good stuff right there.

It’s like anything. You do what you do and then hopefully from doing it, you find what you’re good at and what you want to do.

I should have looked this up, but I have heard that James Earl Jones, one of the most iconic voices that we have, also has/had a stutter.

He’s a wild voice to hear stutter. I can’t imagine. It’s canon.

You become a lead singer.

I was rapping at first and I was writing. I could always write singing parts. I couldn’t sing very well, so other people would sing what I wrote.

Couldn’t you sing very well? We need to get to that. I thought that was natural.

No. A) I never tried. B) When I would try, I was with a couple of other guys that were a lot better. It was like, “Everyone does what they’re good at here.” I can write the parts and I could write songs, but I would give those parts to the people that could sing them a little bit better and then I would just stick to the rapping stuff. I did that throughout most of Down With Webster.

Singing has come with Honors?

Singing has literally come with Honors. In the last few years I was like, “I want to do something different.” I had been singing more and obviously the technology has gotten better too where they can put a little bit tuning on you if you’re a little flat. It can help. They can put reverb on and make it sound great. I still don’t think I’m a fantastic singer. I’m average, I can get by. I’m just around a lot of singers when they open their mouths and these people that I’m like, “As if that comes out of your mouth when you go sing.”

I feel that way about you.

This is different.

You design all the merchandise, the clothing.

I’m definitely not alone in a room. I bounce it off all the other people. I went to college for a few years where I took communications and multimedia and learned basic Photoshop, all this stuff that I kept up throughout my twenties. I still do all of our flyers and all the merch. I love that stuff.

You’re rapping with Down With Webster, transitioned into Honors, transitioned into being a singer.

That was the scariest thing that I think I’ve done performance-wise. It’s one thing to do it in the studio and then it’s like, “It’s time to sing in front of a lot of people.” It’s terrifying.

Where were you when you did your first show singing?

It might have been in Brooklyn.

That’s a cool place. You don’t want to bad in front of cool people.

All the cool people were there.

How many people?

It was like 300. I had control over my mic’s volume. I had a little box that I sing through where I can put in reverb and all these effects. I had the volume so high because I was singing with low volume and I was so scared. I didn’t want to raise my voice or do anything. It was terrifying.

How did it go?

Not well. I got off stage and I was pissed and I was like, “I don’t think I can do this live. I don’t know about this.” I was bummed out. Then I pushed through. At the end of this tour I’m super comfortable. I’ve gone through the bootcamp again of getting used to it and now it’s good.

How long did it take you from that Brooklyn show to feel where you are? Confident? Good?

Probably at least 20 to 30 shows worth of doing it and being like, “Suck it up. If you hit bad notes, it’s fine. Try and project and don’t crawl into your hole.”

I find this inspiring because one of my go-to things is when I suck at something, I just quit. I was like, “That was that. I can’t do that anymore.” This is inspiring for us.

I always believed in my writing and I believed in the music itself. I’m like, “I have to get better at doing this live. I have to.” It’s an important part of it, but it’s not all of it. I was always confident in the other stuff which helped at least pushed me through. Because if I felt I was bad at all of it, I would have been like, “Enough is enough. I’m going to do something else, screw this.”

In your early 30s, you’re touring, you’re in a cool band. You guys are good. Are you single?

I am.

Is that fun being single on the road?

It’s definitely helpful because you’re traveling so much. It’s definitely tough for the people. A couple of guys in my group have girlfriends and it’s definitely a tough thing because you’re essentially in a long-distance relationship for three months out of the year.

Are there groupies? Are there ladies that love to run up to you?

Yes and no, not in the same way. It’s not insane groupies. There are girls at the shows and there are girls that like the music that exists, but it’s not insanity like that. Our music’s a little bit more mature. It’s not for sixteen-year-olds necessarily. It’s aimed at people in our age bracket, in their twenties who are old enough to know that you don’t get that obsessed with anything, but you never know. We’ll see.

You have so much time to do everything. You don’t know yet eventually would you want to get married and have a family?

I honestly don’t know. It’s never been a huge pull for me. I’ve never been a person who fantasizes about their wedding. I’m the same kid who if it doesn’t make sense, I’m not doing it.

You and my brother both are not married.

I never felt like I have to do something because it’s what you do. I’ve always hated that. I have so many friends that are like, “Why are you getting married?” They’re like, “It’s time.” What do you mean it’s time? What time is it?

It’s not time. If feel like that’s the worst reason.

I’m not planning on it but you never know. If you fall in love and want to stay with someone and marry them, then that’s why you do it. If for whatever reason it hasn’t happened, but that’s me at camp. I’m not actively looking for it because I’m not worried that some imaginary clock’s running out.

One of the things that I also love about your family, Cameron’s mom, dad and sister are wonderful people. Your dad has such a good story.

He’s crazy and a regular inspiration to me.

That must’ve set the tone or the template or given you some of the courage to be like, “I’m going to try this new thing and it’s cool.”

I definitely think that helped. It’s super helpful when you have supportive parents and people that are not judging you and went through similar things. Both my parents were actors growing up and my dad’s nuts. He went to Princeton, left and went to mime school in Paris. He became a mime and then started doing acting and doing theater in London. He met my mom, came back, they were both actors in New York for a very long time doing a lot of small films, commercial work. It hit a point where they had us, me and my sister, Annie, in their late 30s. We moved to Toronto and then my dad was 42, had two young children under the age of six and was out of work moving furniture. He didn’t know what he’s going to do. His acting career dried up. It was scary living in this small apartment downtown Toronto, you had no idea what to do and then figured it out.

I would see them every year and I didn’t know any of this until much later. We would spend all our holidays together. This has such a happy ending.

It hit that point and then he was like, “Screw it. I’m going to get behind the camera. I’m going to start doing stuff on the production end.” He ended up getting hired at a small show in Canada called The Health Show that used to be about science and medical stuff. Fast forward, he worked his way through the production community there, met the right people, did the right things and ended up becoming the Vice President of National Geographic Television in the States at the age of 53. He’s still on his journey.

Is he in Istanbul?

He’s in Istanbul. He left National Geographic a few years ago and started his own thing. He’s going around doing this crazy stuff, making documentaries and stuff.

Did your mom travel with him?

No.

There’s a lot of meditating, cooking and helping.

She used to travel occasionally with him, but she got bad rheumatoid arthritis in her 50s that stopped her from extensive travel, but she’s doing well.

You have glorious hair. The reason I bring this up is that you know Art, my husband. You met him so many times. Art is bald and beautiful. I love my husband.

I have many bald and beautiful friends and they rock it.

My boyfriend, Nick, who you knew very well, also bald and beautiful. I might have a type. They’re also super testosterone-y. I feel like that’s because of the baldness. They’re both very similar in certain ways, but you have hair plugs. I say that because they look great.

Not everywhere.

Your dad is receding or is he bald?

My dad went bald at 26.

It looks awesome and I’m saying this because he’s this young, handsome, rocker person.

I did this at 25. I noticed I was losing my hair. It was getting thin in the front and it was bumming me out. I’m like, “This can’t be happening right now.”

Was it the worst pain ever?

It was not great. It was like recovering from surgery.

Was that very expensive?

It’s probably $11,000.

Art references you all the time. He’s like, “Cameron, one day.”

All of my friends who are losing their hair are always like, “What’s going on? How did it happen?”

You’re only thinning in the front. Art is bald.

I got lucky that it was pretty minor. I didn’t leave it at all. As soon as I noticed it going, I was like, “No, this isn’t happening.” I went in and did it and took care of business. I felt like I wanted to. Not even for professional reasons, it’s like day-to-day.

That’s how I feel about Botox and I’m very open about it. As soon as I started to see the wrinkles that bothered me, I was like, “I’ve got to fix that.”

If they have the technology and you have the money, then why not?

You’re like, “Where are my priorities?”

I remember my mom was always like, “Why don’t you take that money and save it?” I was like, “Mom, I would rather have a full head of hair on the bus than be bald in a car.” No diss against bald guys because I have best friends that are bald and rock it with such confidence. I was like, “I wish I was as cool as you or I didn’t care that I could do that.”

Nick and Art are super confident people and they’re both bald.

I always envious of that where I’m like, “You can look cool with a shaved head and you can look cool bald.” That’s special.

You should know that they do have hair envy.

The grass is always greener.

You have to come back next time you’re here when you’re playing giant arenas. Honors Music, @CammHunter on Instagram. Thank you and I love you.

I love you too. Thanks for having me.

Thank you.

See you.

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